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Friday, March 16th, 2012

by admin on March 16, 2012

Been awhile since a good, old-fashioned nerd out happened with Mike Russell, but boy do we get our geek on today. It starts with an extended riff on the daily wars we all wage in the world of Words with Friends, and Mike’s newest battlefield, Draw Something. And then it shifts into a pretty deep discussion into film criticism, and whether people really use it they way we all think they do; what compels people to go to the movies, and why people even bother reading film writing in the first place. A discussion of smaller films that have been saved by passionate writers getting the word out then leads into a tag-team review of 21 Jump Street, a film that has absolutely no business being as great as it is. This one’s for you movie nerds. Enjoy your weekend.

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Clever Name March 16, 2012 at 8:02 pm

What made you guys decide to start mixing up the outro music?


Foible March 19, 2012 at 10:36 am

I have had the same problem with movie reviews since I’ve been going to the movies. The people who write them see a whole bunch more movies than I do and that skews their opinion. Reviewers are more taken by novelty when all I want is a decent picture, I don’t care if it is almost like the ones that played last week or last month because I haven’t seen those either.
One of the best cinamatic experiences of my life was seeing Raiders of the Lost Ark without knowing anything about it, I’ll never get that experience again if I track reviews and trailers.

I like reading Bobby’s reviews and other writings, could you post links to the ones that appear on other sites? I check the fatboyroberts wordpress blog regularly but it doesn’t get updated very often.


vee March 19, 2012 at 11:39 am

I suppose it says something about the way I consume film reviews that I turned the podcast off when you guys started to get into the specifics of why 21 Jump Street is a funny, interesting film. I don’t need to know why – you guys made it sound like a film good enough for a rental at the very least if it doesn’t come out in theaters over here, so I’ll probably try to see it.

I guess a part of it is being surprised, having those discoveries myself. If a review breaks a film down too much, it does diminish enjoyment – those breakdowns are only fun to read afterwards or when you don’t care to see the film because you pretty much know you’ll hate it. That’s usually why I skip reviews on these podcasts when you guys get into discussing something I really want to see – while there’s never spoiler discussions without warning, I’m not a huge fan of details of cool scenes and the like. That just means there’s too much information in my head about the film, and it might mean that said cool scene leaves me disappointed because it’s not as good as some review hyped it up to be.

It’s a fine, completely arbitrary and personal line of distinction, though, and one I struggle to define in my own film-related writing. Usually I just think about the purpose of a blog post on a film – do I want to warn people that this film is a piece of crap, or do I want to recommend it? Do I just want to throw my two cents into the conversation about a particular aspect of the film? A lot of the time, the film already fits into a certain subjective narrative of film experience – as in, it might re-affirm my love or loathing of some actor or director or style of film, or it might completely alter my views on something.

I’m usually pretty vague in my writing, because online most posts are just conversation starters. I don’t have to get too deep into which scenes the main lead was wooden in my opinion, because anybody who reads that and wants to know which scenes I mean, can post a comment and ask.


whypick1 March 19, 2012 at 6:33 pm

Congratulations, Fatty/Mike’s review of 21 Jump Street after the 20 minute discussion on how no one uses movie reviews to determine what movies to see got me to go see it in a few hours. Irony achievement: Unlocked.


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