R.I.P. Cort and Fatboy 2003-2012

Tuesday, June 19th, 2012

by admin on June 19, 2012

David Walker gets real: Real about why he’s still pounding nothing but juice into his body, real about the number of people his age and his size who don’t live that long thereafter, real about why he tells himself it’s okay to pirate some things, but not others, and real about how best to bridge that gulf between Producer and Pirate. What’s not real? The Real World is coming to Portland, so I guess be ready to see what happens when MTV lands in Portland and starts taping episodes of a show most people didn’t even know was still on the air. But then again, we find out today most people don’t remember who Rodney King is, or what band Paul McCartney is in. But how much is that knowledge worth in this day and age, anyway?

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John Book June 20, 2012 at 11:54 am

As someone who used to work in a news room, I related to the segment about the effectiveness of radio and TV advertising. While I was in the department that created the content viewers saw, the sales department would say that they were the ones in charge of keeping the boat afloat. At a time when I felt my job was secure, I heard rumors in my department that they were letting people go. Then on the week before Christmas, I got the pink slip. I had taken it hard because it was my first real job, and one I felt I was damn good at, but I said screw it, let me try to move on. With that layoff happening a few months after 9/11, it has been incredibly difficult to find something decent but I push forward.

My point in mentioning this is that I eventually heard that while they considered my position essential, it was not essential enough compared to the sales department, which I believe at the time had three people. There was a share of ad revenue, but the station would often devote weekends to nothing but half hour infomercials because those infomercials were fairly cheap, especially in a small market town. I realize it’s all about being part of a well-fed machine, but infomercials were of more value than those actually doing the work.

Also liked the discussion of the music industry, its failures, and the connection between creating art and commerce. There was a quote I read from someone recently which said that the music industry has been about image and fashion for a long time, and while it makes some level of money, it’s far from what it used to be. Does that have to do with technology making it easier to obtain the music, or has the quality of music really gone down the hill? I think with the walls down on how to find music and where to locate, there’s more than enough music for everyone. I just think the industry started to lose when they concentrated more on the sell of “units” vs. the quality of music that helps to sell said units. It goes back to The GZA like about “who’s your A&R, a mountain climber who plays an electric guitar?”, people were laughing and going “yeah, hip-hop is turning into a bunch of bozos” back in 1993, but no one talks bout the A&R anymore. It’s no longer that cherished job every college kid wanted. Or what else did someone say with hip-hop, that it was once about mocking the sucker MC’s, and now the main people being heavily pushed is an industry of nothing but sucker MC’s. The music industry, as sellers of music, partly came to be because of music studios wanting to sell their music, and thus the need to create equipment that played the music For decades, the music industry was the biggest furniture store and as we see during the evening news, eventually the music industry acted as if they were going out of business. I feel that it got to where the people making the decisions in the music industry wanted to feel as validated as Hollywood, which meant “if there’s a way to market and make it more glamorous as the red carpet, let’s be fabulash.” Look what happened. The positive thing about the crash of a music industry is that, as stated in the show, anyone can now record, mix, master, and release their music in a number of ways, and there is also greater awareness of how to do it.

I agree with the idea that artists need to be in this for the long haul, that it cannot be an astronomical rise to the top. Fans seem to think that if a band doesn’t win a Grammy or get favorable reviews on the top sites and blogs, they are nothing. Look at a group like Blues Traveler. What did they have, two hits, or at least one bit hit and one song (“But Anyway”) some people will recognize. I’m sure a lot of casual fans don’t realize John Popper got skinny at one point. The thing is, they still tour heavily, still release new music. They may play the fair circuit, but that is bringing them money which allows them to continue, and live. Or look at the Black Crowes. Chris Robinson has a new band, damn good album I might add. He will be on tour, will most likely do Black Crowes songs, but has enough songs on the radio that will bring in those royalty checks. He may not be Michael Jackson big, but he doesn’t have to be. Or look at one of my favorite hip-hop groups, The Roots. They may not have the equivalent of a Black Eyed Peas jam, but they’ve made shifts in their music that has pissed people off. “Why are you guys playing more?” “How come you guys have a guitarist?” “I miss the dope shit, I don’t like your songs when they’re 15 minutes or more.” But they’re the house band on a late night talk show, they continue to do session work, they do festival shows that I’m sure brings in some good money for them. I don’t remember anyone talking about Me Phi Me’s return to the scene. Point is, there are countless options, and sure, maybe the lure for artists, filmmakers, directors etc. is to create work that is free as a lure to get more, or in the hopes that it will lead to bigger and better. Big companies are now looked upon as potential distributors which will bring greater accessibility, and I say if I get hooked on for something, I want to take a lot of people with me for that ride. It may take me another decade, but I do it because I like it. Just as you guys do the podcast. As insane as it is, you do. People listen.

I’ll stop yapping now.

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Bobby June 20, 2012 at 5:21 pm

You wanna yap like that? Yap ALL DAY. that was fascinating to read. Thanks for writing it.

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Tasha June 20, 2012 at 12:04 pm

Holy crap I missed you guys. I lived in Portland for 10 years and listened to you every day when you were on KUFO, and then my husband moved me to the armpit of California…Fresno. Imagine my surprise and dismay when I visited last August to find KUFO was dismantled and rebuilt into a local talk radio (or something). Recently, I asked a friend “Whatever happened to Cort and Fatboy?”, and she informed me of your podcast. Yippee! Our radio here is god-awful (“Scratch ‘n Sniff” anyone?) and I only listen to NPR anymore. Now I have you to look forward to every day. Thank you for doing the clever, intelligent, humorous, sarcastic, honest, creative things you do.

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Bobby June 20, 2012 at 5:24 pm

Thanks Tasha! Glad you found us. Now to see how long it takes before you get sick of us :)

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Varchild June 20, 2012 at 1:00 pm

I remember American Family Home Video. It was a chain not sire how local but there was definately one in Oregon City next to the Paola Waldo’s in hilltop by the jail.

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The Norwegian June 20, 2012 at 3:29 pm

For being a dead medium, DVDs sure is taking a long time to exhale its final breath. When VHS died it went a lot quicker, didn’t it?

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Bobby June 20, 2012 at 5:23 pm

Nah, VHS took its sweet time, too. DVD isn’t QUITE dead yet, but I believe some ads are already starting to leave out the “& DVD” part of their “On Blu-Ray and DVD” tags. Not because it’s not available – it is. It’s that they don’t CARE if it’s available.

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Prod!gy June 22, 2012 at 9:38 am

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VHS does not simply “Die out”.

As a resident of a hick town, let me tell you. I run into VHS tapes everywhere. I recently went on a trip down to Bandon Oregon and saw a video rental place with a sign that said “WE HAVE DVDS!”

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whypick1 June 20, 2012 at 11:30 pm

David’s argument in the beginning on piracy reminded me that there’s this really great movie I saw at SIFF back in ’08 that has still yet to see the light of day on DVD, but I found that the Pirate Bay’s got it. Thanks David!

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vee June 21, 2012 at 12:21 am

What really annoys me is when content providers don’t understand the concept of a worldwide web. Yahoo makes a web-only show but then blocks it from non-US IP’s. What’s the idea there? Are they going to try and sell a webshow (where episodes are probably going to be 5-15 minutes) to foreign channels? Who the hell’s going to buy, given the lower production value and shorter episodes? Why not just take advantage of the bigger audience and go after some multi-national companies to promote their product before the vid begins?

tl;dr I can’t get my Ken Marino because I live outside the US and am stuck trying to PIRATE a show that’s already made for the web. Fuck you, Yahoo.

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