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Friday, June 1st, 2012

by admin on June 1, 2012

Mike Russell just saw PROMETHEUS. But we’re not talking about. We COULD talk about it. There’s a LOT to talk about. But we’re not gonna do that. We’re saving that for next week. Instead, we’re going to talk about Moonrise Kingdom, the films of Wes Anderson, and magical wonderlands contained therein, flights of fancy including Bob Balaban dueling to the death with Morgan Freeman while Sam Elliott looks on, where The Avengers are played by the Red Hot Chili Peppers, and Batman joins Tool onstage at Superhero Lollapalooza. Wicked secrets about Wilford Brimley are revealed, Mike charts his journey as a man, walking a lonely road made of Star Wars timelines, and learns to regret wandering the wilds of the internet, where everyone seems to have lost their damn minds recently.

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Bryant Burnette June 1, 2012 at 8:18 pm

What a shame. I was looking forward to hearing Mike talk about what a piece of shit “Snow White & the Huntsman” is. Because that movie is a piece of shit.


MilesRose June 2, 2012 at 12:43 am

I LOVED Fantastic Mr. Fox!


D. K. Holm June 2, 2012 at 6:21 am

Uh oh! You probably shouldn’t have talked about Moonrise Kingdom either, cause it didn’t “open” today either, apparently. The publicist changed the date to next week, and you know how nutty they are about “reviews” appearing before the “opening,” even if said reviews are positive. And you know how publicists don’t understand the Interlace or that websites are actually global instead of local. Hell, they only started using email about two years ago. Meanwhile, Prometheus opened in Europe … but of course, we reviewers still can’t talk about it, ’cause we are “local.”


Linda June 2, 2012 at 4:38 pm

What’s the definition of “open”? I saw Moonrise Kingdom in Boston today, and folks have been talking and writing about it since the opening night of Cannes. They’d have a lot of nerve telling reviewers to zip it at this point. They’ve heard about the internet, right? Wonderful film!


D. K. Holm June 2, 2012 at 5:43 pm

Studios divide the nation into territories. In those territories they hire publicists to spread the word. Oregon and Washington are “serviced” by publicists mostly based in Seattle. For some inexplicable reason, publicists get upset because the studios get upset if the reviewers review a movie in their “territory” before it has opened in that territory, even though the film may have opened in New York City and been reviewed on line (Moonrise Kingdom) or already been released in Europe (Prometheus a week before here). There are plenty of on line reviews to be found of rometheu, but reviewers in this territory risk being banned from future screenings if they break the locally imposed embargo. I also don’t understand how football “by” games work, or why the U. S. Senate has “cloture” rules. And there have always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm.


Linda June 2, 2012 at 5:55 pm

That’s a complicated system for something that should be simple. I’m always confused by the film industry’s obsession with when films are reviewed. Shouldn’t they just be happy with the exposure? And to threaten reviewers with screening bans feels like biting the hand that feeds them. Politics and sports confound me too.


D. K. Holm June 2, 2012 at 6:08 pm

Even when the review is positive, they get mad. There was a temptest-in-a-teapot controversy last year when David Denby of the New Yorker reviewed … Dragon Tattoo “early,” “betraying” his “agreement” with the producer. And that was a positive review. In fact, one of the few embracingly positive reviews that film received. I would imagine that publicists are petty despots who work in the last possible field outside of fashion and theater where it is permitted to yell at people. Scream, rant, and stomp their tiny little feet. And that’s the guys. It’s a pecking order, so when the studios yell at the publicists the publicists in turn yell at the reviewers, at least those not writing for dailies (which gives you an idea of how out of date publicity agencies remain – they think that daily newspapers matter). I’ve heard that publicists tend to be unstable screamers who like to raise the specter of banishment to harry the writers. For these people it is a career choice – either that, or serial killing. Of course, I don’t know any of this from personal experience. Oh, but the stories I could … re-tell.

Note Can Bobby fix my faulty coding in my previous reply (i.e., stick in a not-italic slash?


Linda June 2, 2012 at 6:50 pm

Wow, that’s a crazy system.


D. K. Holm June 3, 2012 at 8:34 am

Publicists might possibly have less power if somehow the reviewers could band together in a calm, logically organized guild and when a reviewer is, say, banned from seeing any Focus Features, the reviewers en masse could in turn boycott all Focus product, nay, all product from that publicity entity, since you want to bring a machete to a pen knife fight.


Foible June 4, 2012 at 5:56 am

But what was the great trouble that the Starkadders never discussed?

Of all the books (and films) I’ve hated, that one still sticks with me. I just wish it didn’t.


Bobby June 4, 2012 at 12:38 pm

Well, here’s my PROMETHEUS review, then :)


(mild spoilers)


D. K. Holm June 4, 2012 at 2:01 pm

Excellent points about, for example, Scott’s comments over time about the pilot found on the planet in 1.

My issues with the film concentrate on David’s motivation. I can never figure out who he’s really “working for.” His loyalties seem to shift, and you never know why he is supporting his new ally. Maybe there is some clarity there, but I don’t see it. Not unlike, by the way, Lost which liked to keep the viewer guessing about whose side some given character might really be on.


D. K. Holm June 7, 2012 at 10:38 am

Lindelof isn’t a Christian per se, probably, but he has made said in interviews that the Christian material in Lost was there on purpose, that the show was about sin and purgatory.


D. K. Holm June 2, 2012 at 7:17 am

I have a prejudice against the word “flick” for movies. No idea where it comes from; might be a disinclination to embrace slang. Can’t we all just say “flicker” instead, if we have to use a minimizing synonym?


Adrian June 3, 2012 at 7:21 pm

I’ve always been opposed to the term “flick” too –sounds like some sleazy, outdated 1970′s slang; but “flicker” might confuse folks for flickr.com


D. K. Holm June 2, 2012 at 7:18 am

It’s “come down the pike,” not “pipe.” The phrase is not cloacal.


D. K. Holm June 2, 2012 at 7:27 am

Anderson’s use of a Françoise Hardy tune was savvy. After Don Draper’s wife sang “Zoubezoubezou” there was a brief flurry of Interlace interest in “yé-yé” songs, and Ms. Hardy was not only the prettiest of all the yé-yé singers but one of the most beautiful women in the world, ever. She is also referenced in The Barbarian Invasions. Weirdly, few of the yé-yé girls could sing very well, but the songs are cool.



Bobby June 2, 2012 at 9:24 am

I love this. Real-time notes by DK Holm.

I do not think “Flicker” will catch on, unfortunately. It’s not very fetch.


D. K. Holm June 2, 2012 at 12:16 pm

I can’t wait for next week and the gang’s discussion of Prometheus – or as we saw the title rometheu thanks to the bad projection out at that theater (the left and right edges of the screen were cut off). Two things to keep in mind about the film, though: Ridley Scott is a right wing fellow, politically, and second, Damon Lindelof is an avowed Christian, and Lost was a religious allegory about purgatory. This helps explain a lot of the film’s themes and certain key visual motifs and sentences or words that recur (though I’d have to see it again to nail them down).


Dr. Caligari June 3, 2012 at 4:42 am

I discovered these pod-casts about two and a half weeks ago and really enjoy them. Don’t always agree with Fatboy but they are both funny and interesting to hear. Hope they will make pod-casts for years to come.


Jimmy B June 3, 2012 at 3:01 pm

Wilfred Brimley was born in 1934 which means he was about 47 when he made The Thing. :@


Becky Ohlsen June 4, 2012 at 10:26 am

Oh man, I totally cried at Moonrise Kingdom. I’m not ashamed. That movie is perfect. Wes Anderson destroys me. (Fantastic Mr Fox was my favorite up to now; I was wrecked for weeks after that one.)


Mike Russell June 4, 2012 at 3:55 pm

Though, let’s be clear, Becky Ohlsen’s tears are actually high-octane gasoline.


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